Block 12:47 Tue Mar 5
Young English Players - What's changed?
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Over the last 18 months, England has had a real emergence of talented players come through, Rice, Sancho, Odoi, Foden, Maddison, Harvey Barnes, there's also quite a few more and was wondering what's changed?
Wasn't so long ago "pundits" were worrying where our talent was going to come from, then all of a sudden the Youth teams have started producing and winning titles.
So, what's it all about?
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Northern Sold
12:51 Tue Mar 5
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I dunno..
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ludo21
12:54 Tue Mar 5
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St. Georges Park I expect... of which Sir Trev was one of the main driving forces behind it.
Built in 2012 it was modelled on the French academy at Claire Fontaine(?) which is largely credited with kickstarting their success in the 90's and 2000s.
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El Scorchio
12:58 Tue Mar 5
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I might be wrong, but I feel we're going away a bit from the 'formula' for players we used to have- safe prospects from big clubs who are disciplined, have a 'good engine' and don't take risks to more flair and exciting players who might not have got a look in before.
Maybe players are being encouraged to express themselves more at a youth level? Maybe less of them are playing for a Ferguson or Mourinho type manager at club level who want to coach all the flair and unpredictability out of them in favour of being more pragmatic?
These kids are definitely more skillful than past generations, it seems.
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The old c wing
1:02 Tue Mar 5
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Who did Ferguson coach all the flair out of??
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Takashi Miike
1:03 Tue Mar 5
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Ferguson loved flair players
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-[Rasta]-
1:09 Tue Mar 5
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I'm a coach and the FA has made lots of progressive changes to youth football, looks like its working to me
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Block
1:11 Tue Mar 5
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Clubs do seem to be giving the younger lot a chance now as well, which could be another reason.
However, the players now seem to be a lot better on the ball and a lot more technical.
Do people feel the change from playing 11 a side down to 5/6/7/ a side has had a difference too?
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Eddie B
1:19 Tue Mar 5
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Harvey Barnes? Sounds like a character from a 1950's Ealing comedy.
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Block
1:21 Tue Mar 5
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Leicester attacking wide player, B son.
Maybe if you watched football instead of worrying what your going to Eddie B on here you'll know who he is?
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Eddie B
1:26 Tue Mar 5
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*you're*
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Cheezey Bell-End
1:42 Tue Mar 5
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Have they ditched the old FA coaching manual by Charles Hughes? They needed to.
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Block
1:44 Tue Mar 5
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Forgot about Wam Bissaka as well.
I really do think we're in with a shout at the Euros next year, and even the next world cup.
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stepney hammer
1:46 Tue Mar 5
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Don't forget Sean Longstaff who as we know is better than Declan Rice...
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Block
1:52 Tue Mar 5
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ARF!
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Eggbert Nobacon
1:56 Tue Mar 5
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El Scorchio 12:58 Tue Mar 5
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Maybe less of them are playing for a Ferguson or Mourinho type manager at club level
Did you ever actually watch a ferguson side? if you did did you leave your glasses at home that day>?
Comparing his style in any way whatsoever to Mourinho is one of the more ridiculous things I've read on here
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Iron Duke
1:57 Tue Mar 5
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Generally, the attitude of the young players seems to be improving. They don't all think they have made it after playing one game, and are prepared to play abroad to get experience.
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Grumpster
2:01 Tue Mar 5
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Considering a lot of other nations have really regressed, it really could finally be time for us to have a real go consistently in the euro's and world cup.
Felt they choked against Croatia, so they still need to sort the mentality part out.
Rice really could be the final part of an already half decent team, as that position was clearly where we were weakest.
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Block
2:03 Tue Mar 5
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Duke, it does seem that way. So there must have been a huge change of coaching at younger level.
It's funny how GERMANY seems to be a popular place for the young'uns to go?
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Westside
2:04 Tue Mar 5
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Long term planning and development, such as those described on the thread, FA coaching structure, Sir Trev's input etc, are now starting to show the benefits.
Younger players now seem much more comfortable on the ball and can pass to each other over reasonable distances. The success at age level tournaments, has given younger players the experience of winning at tournaments.
The senior side has done much better under Southgate, than I imagined. Very good progress since the World Cup, as Nation's league results showed. Just need to score a few more open play goals.
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Grumpster
2:12 Tue Mar 5
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Good opportunities for game time in Germany Block, as their league like their international side is as weak as I've seen it, so the lads know they won't be going there to just warm a bench if they're good enough.
I dislike being positive over England a lot, but it's hard not to be at the moment.
As a fan, I want the likes of Odoi to piss off for regular game time, as I know it will improve him and in turn our national side.
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